Forget the scripts, the actors and the recreations. Crime, Truth & Justice is your rare chance to hear directly from the people who live crime, not dramatise it.

Criminal barrister Judith Fordham, forensic pathologist Professor Peter Ellis OAM, and former police officer turned psychologist Damien Stewart have stood at the crime scene, in the courtroom, and in the aftermath of trauma. They’ve seen what really happens when lives are shattered–and what it takes to find truth, justice and recovery.

How does real forensic work differ from what you see on TV? What’s the emotional toll of investigating tragedy? And why do those who live crime still believe in humanity?Gripping, emotional and utterly authentic–The Real Deal takes you beyond the story and into the truth.

Hosted by Kathryn Fox, doctor, crime author and former host of Crime Insiders: Forensics, this powerful conversation cuts through fiction and sensationalism to reveal the reality behind the headlines.