Join Joe Walker in conversation with Abul Rizvi—one of the key architects of Australia’s modern migration system

Abul Rizvi is a former Deputy Secretary of the Department of Immigration. Abul managed Australia’s migration program from 1995 to 2007 and was instrumental in reshaping Australia’s migration policy to focus on skilled migration and increasing overseas student intake. He holds a PhD in population and immigration policy from the University of Melbourne.

Topic: In this conversation, Joe and Abul will be unpacking the past, present and future of Australia's migration policy—one of the most contentious and politically charged issues ahead of the federal election.

Schedule

6:00pm: Doors open

6:30pm - 8:00pm: Podcast conversation, including audience Q&A

8:00pm - late: Meet-and-greet

Refreshments: Light food, tea, coffee, and non-alcoholic beverages will be provided.

Venue

The Royal Society of Victoria.

8 La Trobe St, Melbourne VIC 3000.

Event will be held upstairs in The Ellery Lecture Theatre.

Disclaimer: Please note that audio and video of this event will be recorded for future publication on The Joe Walker Podcast.

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About Joe Walker's Australian Policy Salons

This event is part of Joe Walker’s Australian Policy Salons—live conversations in early 2025 with Australia’s leading thinkers on the country’s most pressing issues. Learn more and buy tickets to other events here.

What are "Policy Salons"?

These events aren’t public lectures.

Think of them as salons for the policy-minded—intimate, high-quality gatherings where big ideas meet thoughtful people.

With just 50–70 tickets per session, the focus is on depth, not scale—giving you the chance to ask questions, share ideas, and connect with a curious, engaged audience.

The goal is to create a space for meaningful conversations about Australia’s most urgent policy challenges—both on stage and off.

About The Joe Walker Podcast

Joe Walker hosts The Joe Walker Podcast on which he conducts deeply-researched interviews with founders, scientists and public intellectuals.

Joe's podcast has been the #1 ranked business show in the Australian Apple Podcast Charts, profiled by the Australian Financial Review, awarded two Emergent Ventures grants from Tyler Cowen, and described by Australia's Assistant Treasurer Dr Andrew Leigh MP as "the best Australian podcast".

Recent interviews/guests include:

An interview with Nassim Taleb — the transcript of which will be a chapter in the new edition of Taleb's book The Statistical Consequences of Fat Tails.
Katalin Karikó's first ever longform podcast interview — before she won the Nobel prize in 2023 (for inventing mRNA technology).
One of Daniel Kahneman's final interviews (in which he praised Joe's interviewing skills).
A 4.5-hour interview with former Australian Treasury Secretary Ken Henry.
David Deutsch and Steven Pinker's first ever public dialogue.
Former US Treasury Secretary (and current OpenAI board member) Larry Summers' first rigorous interview on the economic implications of AI.

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Contact the host of Joe Walker Podcast LIVE — Abul Rizvi on Immigration [Melbourne]