Xavier Fowler (The Football War) and Des Tobin (It’s in the Genes) talk their recent football biographies.

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XAVIER FOWLER is a historian who writes on sport and society.

DES TOBIN has crammed more lives into his 86 years than your average cat. He has variously been a failed student, a discontented apprentice panel beater, a youth worker, a springboard diver, a junior pole-vaulter, a VFL, QANFL and Olympic Australian Rules footballer, a 10-pin bowling instructor, a successful business executive, a golfing tragic, a university lecturer and a prolific writer. Des is also the author of Simply Toogood - Peter Toogood’s Life in Golf, Frank Costa – Family Faith and Footy, Michael Tricarico ;- The Journey Not The Destination, Just a Man Called Phonse, and It’s In The Genes – Australian Football Families.