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    Unraveling Complexity: Improving our perception for a better world

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    Small Giants Academy is excited to host ‘Conversations with Extraordinary People’, a webinar series with the worlds most extraordinary and leading thinkers. Together, we will explore the question “How might we reimagine our world to create the conditions for shared thriving for all humans and living things.


    In this conversation, Small Giants Academy co-founder Berry Liberman will be chatting with creator of the Warm Data theory, Nora Bateson. Together, they’ll be exploring our relationship with complexity, and how we can improve our perception of that complexity to enhance our interaction with the world and each other.

    We recommend you listen to Berry and Nora's podcast recording 'Systems thinking in the meadow crisis' on the Wisdom and Action podcast for a deeper understanding of Nora's work.

    Meet Nora Bateson:

    Nora Bateson, is an award-winning filmmaker, research designer, writer, educator, international lecturer, as well as President of the International Bateson Institute based in Sweden. She is the creator of the Warm Data theory and practices.  Nora’s work brings the fields of biology, cognition, art, anthropology, psychology, and information technology together into a study of the patterns in ecology of living systems. 

    She wrote, directed and produced the award-winning documentary, An Ecology of Mind, a portrait of her father Gregory Bateson.

    Her first book, Small Arcs of Larger Circles, released by Triarchy Press, UK, 2016 is a revolutionary personal approach to the study of systems and complexity.

    In her latest second book Combining, Nora invites us into an ecology of communication where nothing stands alone, and every action sets off a chain of incalculable consequences. She challenges conventional fixes for our problems, highlighting the need to tackle issues at multiple levels, understand interdependence, and embrace ambiguity.

    She was the recipient of the Neil Postman Award for Career Achievement in Public Intellectual Activity in 2019.   

    Meet Berry Liberman:


    Berry Liberman is a pioneering impact investor, businesswoman, philanthropist, storyteller and filmmaker. As co-founder of Australia’s first B-Corporation, the Small Giants Family Office, Berry and her husband Danny Almagor create and support media, investment, and education initiatives with the purpose of moving towards a Next Economy model: supporting human flourishing within our collective natural limits.

    Berry was the editor in chief and publisher of Dumbo Feather for 12 years and is the creative director of Small Giants Academy, an educational initiative providing courses in progressive business, investing, and leadership.

    She is an accomplished speaker, interviewer and thought leader on the Next Economy. Berry’s radical curiosity and intelligence are as expansive as her big-hearted love for people and planet alike. With warmth, humour and deep relatability, Berry urges leaders from all sectors to face a changing economy before it’s too late to have that choice.


    Thank you for supporting Small Giants Academy, a not-for-profit organisation and an ACNC registered charity.

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